Legislature(2023 - 2024)GRUENBERG 120

05/12/2023 01:00 PM House JUDICIARY

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+= SB 53 COMPETENCY; INVOLUNTARY CIVIL COMMITMENTS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
        SB  53-COMPETENCY; INVOLUNTARY CIVIL COMMITMENTS                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:33:31 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE announced  that the final order of  business would be                                                               
CS  FOR  SENATE  BILL  NO.   53(FIN)  am,  "An  Act  relating  to                                                               
competency  to   stand  trial;  relating  to   involuntary  civil                                                               
commitments;  and  relating  to victims'  rights  during  certain                                                               
civil commitment proceedings."                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE  invited the  bill  sponsor  to explain  "where  the                                                               
Criminal Division meets Civil Division."                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:34:36 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR MATT  CLAMAN, Alaska State Legislature,  prime sponsor of                                                               
CSSB 53(FIN)  AM, highlighted Section  6 as  the key part  of the                                                               
legislation.  Section 6 would  require the prosecutor for certain                                                               
individuals who  meet the statutory definition  of "dangerous" to                                                               
file an  involuntary commitment [petition] under  Title 47, which                                                               
would start the civil proceedings.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:35:21 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  shared his  belief that  the additional                                                               
two-year commitment in Section 11  would be a significant portion                                                               
of the bill.  He asked why two years was selected.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:35:38 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  CLAMAN acknowledged  that the  additional commitment  in                                                               
Section  11 was  a key  part of  the bill;  however, it  wouldn't                                                               
impact the  power to hold  someone, which under current  law, was                                                               
achieved  by repeating  six-month  involuntary  commitments.   In                                                               
terms of closing  "the gap" illustrated by Ms.  Harris's case, he                                                               
said, Section 6  was the most important part  of the legislation.                                                               
He  noted  that   the  bill  was  introduced   with  a  five-year                                                               
commitment,  which was  amended from  five  years to  two in  the                                                               
Senate Finance Committee.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:36:40 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER questioned the  reason for moving from a                                                               
six-month to two-year commitment.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  CLAMAN  explained  that   there  were  two  reasons  for                                                               
lengthening the commitment term.   Firstly, it would give greater                                                               
assurance to  victims for  healing.   Secondly, he  believed that                                                               
two years would  be a reasonable balance  between civil liberties                                                               
and protecting the public.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CARPENTER asked  how often  someone who  had been                                                               
committed could petition for release, should the bill pass.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:38:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
STEVEN   BOOKMAN,  Senior   Assistant  Attorney   General,  Human                                                               
Services Section,  Civil Division (Anchorage), Department  of Law                                                               
(DOL), directed attention to page 10,  line 4, of the bill, which                                                               
states that  a respondent committed  under the new  provision may                                                               
petition  the court  for early  discharge at  any time  after the                                                               
first  six   months  if  the  respondent   can  present  evidence                                                               
demonstrating that  he/she is no  longer likely to  cause serious                                                               
harm to self or others.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER asked  how a respondent would  be in the                                                               
position  to provide  such evidence  if he/she  was not  of sound                                                               
mind due to medication.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:39:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KRISTY BECKER,  PhD, Director of  Clinical Services,  Division of                                                               
Alaska Psychiatric Institute, Department  of Family and Community                                                               
Services (DFCS),  informed the committee that  as a psychologist,                                                               
she  did not  prescribe  medication;  nonetheless, she  theorized                                                               
that an individual who stabilized  on medication might be able to                                                               
announce  his/her desire  to leave  to  the clinical  team.   The                                                               
legal  representative  would  then bring  forward  the  patient's                                                               
wishes to be  reevaluated.  Alternatively, she  said the clinical                                                               
team could  reach a determination  that the individual  no longer                                                               
met the  criteria for dangerousness and  subsequently contact the                                                               
patient's counsel.   She  acknowledged that  putting the  onus on                                                               
the patient could "muddy the waters."                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE, citing  Section 5,  subsection (h),  asked for  the                                                               
definition of "mental health professional."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
DR. BECKER  indicated that the  mental health  professional would                                                               
be the licensed  practitioner who was medicating  the patient and                                                               
served as the signatory on the patient's commitment paperwork.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN  clarified that the  provisions in Section  5 were                                                               
specific to  situations in which  a person had been  detained for                                                               
evaluation.   Subsection  (h) addressed  a  scenario wherein  the                                                               
clinic determined that the individual  no longer met the criteria                                                               
to hold for evaluation.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:44:01 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR   VANCE   asked   why   the   language   "psychiatrist   or                                                               
psychologist,"  which was  used in  other sections  of the  bill,                                                               
wasn't used in Section 5.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  CLAMAN  explained  that   the  language  in  Section  5,                                                               
subsection (h), was  suggested by DOL in an  amendment adopted on                                                               
the Senate floor.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:44:52 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE GROH sought to understand  the rational behind the                                                               
language in Section  5, which was added on the  Senate floor, and                                                               
how it might affect a settlement in a particular case.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  CLAMAN explained  that  the language  was  added at  the                                                               
request of the  Civil Division in response to  the Alaska Supreme                                                               
Court Decision on  the Abigail and Jethro case,  which were civil                                                               
proceedings.   The  Civil Division  believed  that the  standards                                                               
applied by  the court  in regard  to the  decision on  whether to                                                               
hold somebody in a civil  commitment environment should be better                                                               
clarified.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:46:45 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GROH  asked  whether  Section 5  would  affect  a                                                               
settlement  entered  into  by  the  state  in  relation  to  [The                                                             
Disability Law Center of Alaska, Inc. v. State of Alaska].                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  CLAMAN  said  he  had   spoken  to  a  lawyer  from  the                                                               
Disability  Law  Center  (DLC) of  Alaska,  indicating  that  the                                                               
proposed legislation  would not change the  state's obligation to                                                               
comply with the terms of the lawsuit.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:47:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  recalled that  Senator Claman  had stated                                                               
that the  length of commitment  would play a significant  role in                                                               
the healing of  a victim.  He asked Senator  Claman to expound on                                                               
that statement.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  CLAMAN  replied  that   by  putting  [offenders]  in  an                                                               
involuntary commitment  environment for a longer  period of time,                                                               
victims  were  reassured that  [the  state]  was taking  care  of                                                               
somebody who was a danger to the community.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  asked whether the healing  of victims was                                                               
one of  the criteria for  deciding whether  to keep someone  in a                                                               
civil commitment setting.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN answered no.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  EASTMAN  asked  whether  the  legislature  should                                                               
consider adding that to the criteria as a factor to consider.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR CLAMAN directed the question to Mr. Bookman.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:49:48 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR.  BOOKMAN  stated that,  per  the  U.S. Supreme  Court,  civil                                                               
commitment needed to  be based on two ideas: harm  to others, and                                                               
danger to  self.  The  perspective of  the victim would  not fall                                                               
under the  grounds for commitment;  however, it might  fall under                                                               
other areas, such as length of commitment, he said.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  asked whether [the  victim's perspective]                                                               
should be  part of  the criteria  when making  a decision  on the                                                               
length of commitment.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOOKMAN said that would be a policy decision.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE EASTMAN  inquired about prosecutorial ethics.   He                                                               
asked Mr. Booker to speak to  the ethics of charging someone with                                                               
a crime if he/she would not be competent to stand trial.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOOKE noted that he did  not deal with charging decisions and                                                               
deferred the question to Mr. Skidmore.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:52:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER referred to  Section 13, subsection (d),                                                               
and  asked who  decides  whether evidence  demonstrates that  the                                                               
respondent is not likely to cause harm.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
DR. BECKER  said the  decision on  clinical dangerousness,  as it                                                               
relates  to  a  mental  health  concern,  is  determined  by  the                                                               
practitioner through  an evaluative process and  risk assessment.                                                               
She asked Mr. Bookman to "chime in" on the question.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER asked what  legal evidence was necessary                                                               
for a petition to go to court.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOOKMAN  referred to [page  10], line 6, indicating  that the                                                               
respondent must provide some reason  to suggest that there should                                                               
be a hearing.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  asked how the respondent  would be able                                                               
to present  evidence if it was  up to the medical  team to decide                                                               
what evidence exists.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MR. BOOKMAN conveyed that there could  be two ways.  Firstly, the                                                               
respondent could  hire an  expert to  examine the  respondent and                                                               
testify on his/her  behalf.  Secondly, API  team's decision could                                                               
be analyzed.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE CARPENTER  shared, for  the record, that  his line                                                               
of questioning was  aimed at preventing abuse, not  an attempt to                                                               
"let loose" mentally ill people.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
3:59:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY  asked  when  the  process  of  establishing                                                               
competency  to stand  trial began  and  how the  bill would  have                                                               
impacted Ms. Harris's assailant [Mr. Ahkivgak].                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  CLAMAN  explained  under  the  proposed  legislation,  a                                                               
petition  for involuntary  commitment would  have been  filed for                                                               
Mr. Ahkivgak  due to his  prior criminal and  psychiatric history                                                               
instead of him being released back into the community.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GRAY   sought  to   understand  the   process  of                                                               
establishing competency to stand trial  and when that process was                                                               
initiated after someone  had assaulted another person.   He asked                                                               
Senator  Claman  to help  him  understand  how someone  could  be                                                               
charged  with a  violent  crime  and then  released  back to  the                                                               
public  without   charges.    Additionally,  he   sought  further                                                               
clarification on the dates and timeframes in the bill.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  VANCE  noted that  there  was  not  enough time  left  for                                                               
Senator Claman to  provide a full picture.  She  invited the bill                                                               
sponsor to provide a brief response.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:04:51 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took a brief at-ease.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:06:24 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  CLAMAN  explained the  two  processes  at play  and  the                                                               
different lengths  of commitment.   On  the criminal  side, there                                                               
was a  six month to one  year period of restoration  hold, during                                                               
which,  if the  court  concluded that  the  individual cannot  be                                                               
restored, the  case would  be dismissed.   Alternatively,  if the                                                               
individual became  competent, the  criminal case  would continue.                                                               
In  regard  to  the  involuntary  commitment  proceedings,  which                                                               
involve  dangerous  offenders,  as  addressed by  the  bill,  the                                                               
prosecutor  would initiate  the  civil commitment  just prior  to                                                               
dismissal for criminal charges dismissed  due to competency.  The                                                               
Civil Division  would then take over  the involuntary commitment,                                                               
resulting in  options of  a 30-day  commitment after  the 72-hour                                                               
assessment, which could be extended to  90 days, and again to 180                                                               
days.  At the conclusion of  the 180 days, another petition could                                                               
be filed for  these dangerous individuals for a  commitment of up                                                               
to  2 years.    He  noted that  for  anyone  without a  dangerous                                                               
criminal history, the maximum commitment would be 180 days.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
4:10:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR VANCE announced that CSSB 53(FIN) AM would be held over.                                                                  

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB 4 - Amendement #1 (B.3) by Rep. Eastman.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 4
HB 4 - Amendement #2 (B.4) by Rep. Eastman.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 4
HB 4 - Sponsor Statement.pdf HJUD 5/10/2023 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 4
HB 4 - v.A.PDF HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
HSTA 5/2/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 4
HB 4 - Sectional Analysis.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
HSTA 5/2/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 4
HB 4 - Fiscal Note - GOV - 2,500.0.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
HSTA 5/2/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 4
HB 4 - Maine Policy Institute Study on RCV.pdf HJUD 5/11/2023 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
HSTA 5/2/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 4
HB 4 - AK Chamber Dittman Poll Page.pdf HJUD 5/11/2023 1:00:00 PM
HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
HSTA 5/2/2023 3:00:00 PM
HB 4
SB 53 Sponsor Statement version T.A.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 version T.A.PDF HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Sectional Analysis version T.A.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Fiscal Note #3 DOA-LAS-PDA (03-10-23).pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Fiscal Note #5 DOA-LAS-OPA (04-07-23).pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Fiscal Note #7 DFCS-IMH-API (05-08-23).pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Fiscal Note #8 DOL-CD-CJL (05-08-23).pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Fiscal Note #9 JUD-ACS-TC (05-08-23).pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Supporting Document - Frequently Asked Questions 5.5.2023.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Testimony Received 5.4.2023.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Research - CSG Competency Report 10.1.2020.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Research - Forensic Psychiatric Hospital Feasibility Study Draft 2.1.2019.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Research - NCSL Competency to Stand Trial General Overview 11.1.2022.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Research - NCSL Involuntary Commitment Timeline Maximums 3.13.2023.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Research - NCSL Spreadsheet State Involuntary Commitment 3.13.2023.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
SB 53 Research KTUU Article 2.15.2022.pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
SB 53
HB 4 - IN-FAVOR Written Testimony (05-09 to 05-12).pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 4
HB 4 - NOT-IN-FAVOR Written Testimony (05-09 to 05-12).pdf HJUD 5/12/2023 1:00:00 PM
HB 4